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		<title>By: Nathan Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. you nailed it. That is exactly the issue. McCain is an honest, stand up guy and I would be *strongly* tempted to vote for him even given that I&#039;m a &quot;mostly&quot; loyal Democrat. But, given his support of the war - I can&#039;t. 

As the days pass, I&#039;m becoming less of a Democratic loyalist. My bone to pick is that the Dems is that backed off the war issue. America clearly voted against the war and brought them to power to do something about it. The only reason the Democratic controlled congress backed down is to purposely make the Republicans look bad for the upcoming election. That&#039;s playing politics at the expense of human lives. 

I agree with you about Charlie Crist, I&#039;ve heard he is doing an excellent job. Everyone thinks so in Florida. Jeb was a hoser, and I suspect he rigged or at least &quot;tweaked&quot; the presidential election in Florida. 

I also like your cabinet suggestions. I wonder if Obama offered Hilary V.P. if she would turn it down? I think she&#039;s got too much pride to be #2. Kucinich should be in charge of the E.P.A., Parks Service,  or some granola-eating job like that. Al Gore could be the secretary of making-money-off popular-causes and the Internet, lol. Maybe he can claim he invented Internet 2.0. My man John Edwards can be the White House consultant on grooming. 

The whole sub prime mortgage thing, is all because of corporate greed (not Iraq) and unfortunately the middle and lower classes are getting lashed as the crooked banks packed it up and passed on the shaky loans to ma and pa fund investors. Not to mention the folks who have been kicked out of their homes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. you nailed it. That is exactly the issue. McCain is an honest, stand up guy and I would be *strongly* tempted to vote for him even given that I&#8217;m a &#8220;mostly&#8221; loyal Democrat. But, given his support of the war &#8211; I can&#8217;t. </p>
<p>As the days pass, I&#8217;m becoming less of a Democratic loyalist. My bone to pick is that the Dems is that backed off the war issue. America clearly voted against the war and brought them to power to do something about it. The only reason the Democratic controlled congress backed down is to purposely make the Republicans look bad for the upcoming election. That&#8217;s playing politics at the expense of human lives. </p>
<p>I agree with you about Charlie Crist, I&#8217;ve heard he is doing an excellent job. Everyone thinks so in Florida. Jeb was a hoser, and I suspect he rigged or at least &#8220;tweaked&#8221; the presidential election in Florida. </p>
<p>I also like your cabinet suggestions. I wonder if Obama offered Hilary V.P. if she would turn it down? I think she&#8217;s got too much pride to be #2. Kucinich should be in charge of the E.P.A., Parks Service,  or some granola-eating job like that. Al Gore could be the secretary of making-money-off popular-causes and the Internet, lol. Maybe he can claim he invented Internet 2.0. My man John Edwards can be the White House consultant on grooming. </p>
<p>The whole sub prime mortgage thing, is all because of corporate greed (not Iraq) and unfortunately the middle and lower classes are getting lashed as the crooked banks packed it up and passed on the shaky loans to ma and pa fund investors. Not to mention the folks who have been kicked out of their homes.</p>
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		<title>By: Gnorb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gnorb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, that&#039;s what really gets to me. For the most part, I actually really, really like McCain, but his fervent support for the war is really a complete turnoff, mostly because I believe that the cost of it is making our country weaker. (The subprime mortgage mess and the cost of the war really have nothing to do with each other, regardless what anyone says. They&#039;re two totally different issues, being handled by two totally different entities, one being the government and the other being the banks. They meet at certain points, yes, but the subprime mess would still be going on even if the war wasn&#039;t, all other things being equal.) 

As for the experience of Obama, I&#039;ve never seen that as much of a factor because good executives will always bring around them the best people they can on any subject they are weak on. Should Obama win, I could only guess this being the possible setup:

President: Obama
VP: Dodd or Richardson or Powell
Sec of State: Richardson or Powell or Clinton
Atty Gen: John Edwards
Sec of Def: Powell, Patreus, or some other general I&#039;ve never heard of.
Sec of Peace (new position): Kucinich. 

However, this is stacking it way too much towards the left. It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if some more dissenting minds made it to high office, people with completely different view points, like McCain, Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, or even Charlie Crist (who has, all in all, done a rather fine job in FL). There&#039;s a reason life-long Republicans are fancying Obama, and it&#039;s because of that whole &quot;Unity Ticket&quot; thing. 

As for celebrities, I have absolutely no problem with them going out and stumping for their candidate. They&#039;re citizens, too. They just happen to ve more visible than most of us, and Oprah... well, what can be said? It&#039;s Oprah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, that&#8217;s what really gets to me. For the most part, I actually really, really like McCain, but his fervent support for the war is really a complete turnoff, mostly because I believe that the cost of it is making our country weaker. (The subprime mortgage mess and the cost of the war really have nothing to do with each other, regardless what anyone says. They&#8217;re two totally different issues, being handled by two totally different entities, one being the government and the other being the banks. They meet at certain points, yes, but the subprime mess would still be going on even if the war wasn&#8217;t, all other things being equal.) </p>
<p>As for the experience of Obama, I&#8217;ve never seen that as much of a factor because good executives will always bring around them the best people they can on any subject they are weak on. Should Obama win, I could only guess this being the possible setup:</p>
<p>President: Obama<br />
VP: Dodd or Richardson or Powell<br />
Sec of State: Richardson or Powell or Clinton<br />
Atty Gen: John Edwards<br />
Sec of Def: Powell, Patreus, or some other general I&#8217;ve never heard of.<br />
Sec of Peace (new position): Kucinich. </p>
<p>However, this is stacking it way too much towards the left. It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if some more dissenting minds made it to high office, people with completely different view points, like McCain, Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, or even Charlie Crist (who has, all in all, done a rather fine job in FL). There&#8217;s a reason life-long Republicans are fancying Obama, and it&#8217;s because of that whole &#8220;Unity Ticket&#8221; thing. </p>
<p>As for celebrities, I have absolutely no problem with them going out and stumping for their candidate. They&#8217;re citizens, too. They just happen to ve more visible than most of us, and Oprah&#8230; well, what can be said? It&#8217;s Oprah.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.gnorb.net/1024/politics-time/comment-page-1#comment-79659</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 03:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted in the Florida Democratic Primary, my last act before *officially* changing my residency to the great Blue state of Michigan. I voted for John Edwards who represented me in the U.S. Senate for North Carolina. 

Shortly thereafter John Edwards bowed out of the race. I was waiting for him to make an endorsement - so far he hasn&#039;t. Despite my reservations about Barack Obama&#039;s experience - I favor him over Hilary Clinton. I believe Barack has a better chance of defeating John McCain if he were to win the Republican nomination. I believe the war with Iraq is immoral and the likely Republican nominee wants to continue the Bush Follies. Should Mike Huckabee win the nomination (to the delight of Rush Limbaugh and Chuck Norris and the rest of the &quot;im&quot;moral minority) I think America will easily turn to the democratic party. Mike Huckabee has plans to try to turn America into an even more war-mongering theocracy then it has been with The Devil Dubya.

Face it Hilary is seen as too left leaning to be able to successfully take the throne. She&#039;s also no champion of health care. She&#039;s has received the second most contributions in the U.S. Senate from big health care companies. 

By the way - I despise celebrities telling me how to vote. Sorry, Oprah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted in the Florida Democratic Primary, my last act before *officially* changing my residency to the great Blue state of Michigan. I voted for John Edwards who represented me in the U.S. Senate for North Carolina. </p>
<p>Shortly thereafter John Edwards bowed out of the race. I was waiting for him to make an endorsement &#8211; so far he hasn&#8217;t. Despite my reservations about Barack Obama&#8217;s experience &#8211; I favor him over Hilary Clinton. I believe Barack has a better chance of defeating John McCain if he were to win the Republican nomination. I believe the war with Iraq is immoral and the likely Republican nominee wants to continue the Bush Follies. Should Mike Huckabee win the nomination (to the delight of Rush Limbaugh and Chuck Norris and the rest of the &#8220;im&#8221;moral minority) I think America will easily turn to the democratic party. Mike Huckabee has plans to try to turn America into an even more war-mongering theocracy then it has been with The Devil Dubya.</p>
<p>Face it Hilary is seen as too left leaning to be able to successfully take the throne. She&#8217;s also no champion of health care. She&#8217;s has received the second most contributions in the U.S. Senate from big health care companies. </p>
<p>By the way &#8211; I despise celebrities telling me how to vote. Sorry, Oprah.</p>
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