Comments on: So, a Man Walks into a Full Airplane and Says… http://www.gnorb.net/845/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says Fiction has to be plausible. Reality is under no such constraint. Thu, 26 Jan 2012 04:13:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gnorb http://www.gnorb.net/845/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says#comment-55763 Gnorb Mon, 07 May 2007 14:21:19 +0000 http://www.gnorb.net/life/20070430/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says/#comment-55763 Pat FTW! Pat FTW!

]]> By: Pat http://www.gnorb.net/845/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says#comment-55614 Pat Sat, 05 May 2007 23:00:13 +0000 http://www.gnorb.net/life/20070430/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says/#comment-55614 Actually, that seems like your dad had a pretty good strategy. Pick out someone who looked like a sore looser, get 'em riled enough to want to move, and have your sister come and join him. Worked! Good for him. Flying is a big enough hassle already without being seperated from your family. By the way, Chas, here is a little comparison as to why an astute business person might choose Southwest: Average flight from Boise to Dallas (just as an example) Southwest (Non-stop, refundable ticket): $319 United (One-stop, they don't have non-stop, refundable economy): $609.80 United doesn't have business class (at least on this flight), they have economy and first class, first class obviously costing more. Seems to me like he could buy a few toner cartridges or even another ticket for his daughter for the money he would save flying Southwest. Yep, real dumb business decision. Pat Actually, that seems like your dad had a pretty good strategy. Pick out someone who looked like a sore looser, get ‘em riled enough to want to move, and have your sister come and join him. Worked! Good for him. Flying is a big enough hassle already without being seperated from your family.

By the way, Chas, here is a little comparison as to why an astute business person might choose Southwest:

Average flight from Boise to Dallas (just as an example)
Southwest (Non-stop, refundable ticket): $319
United (One-stop, they don’t have non-stop, refundable economy): $609.80

United doesn’t have business class (at least on this flight), they have economy and first class, first class obviously costing more.

Seems to me like he could buy a few toner cartridges or even another ticket for his daughter for the money he would save flying Southwest. Yep, real dumb business decision.

Pat

]]> By: nick http://www.gnorb.net/845/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says#comment-55096 nick Tue, 01 May 2007 21:22:15 +0000 http://www.gnorb.net/life/20070430/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says/#comment-55096 i wish I had that good of a sense of humor, I'm a big guy as well, and I hate planes just for that reason. And Chas... who the heck are you?! That is most likely the rudest comment I have ever read. You give this god awful "advice" that has nothing to do with anything, and you don't even leave a link back to you? WOW. i wish I had that good of a sense of humor, I’m a big guy as well, and I hate planes just for that reason. And Chas… who the heck are you?! That is most likely the rudest comment I have ever read. You give this god awful “advice” that has nothing to do with anything, and you don’t even leave a link back to you? WOW.

]]> By: Gnorb http://www.gnorb.net/845/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says#comment-55078 Gnorb Tue, 01 May 2007 18:48:51 +0000 http://www.gnorb.net/life/20070430/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says/#comment-55078 Yeah, it does cause a cycle, and it's something I vehemently disagree with him on, although it's my nature to do the same. (It's something I've worked on for YEARS, and feel that I will need to work on for the rest of my life.) Yeah, it does cause a cycle, and it’s something I vehemently disagree with him on, although it’s my nature to do the same. (It’s something I’ve worked on for YEARS, and feel that I will need to work on for the rest of my life.)

]]> By: Quantum Skyline http://www.gnorb.net/845/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says#comment-55076 Quantum Skyline Tue, 01 May 2007 18:28:29 +0000 http://www.gnorb.net/life/20070430/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says/#comment-55076 “If someone’s a dickhead to me, I’m just gonna be a bigger dickhead back.” Doesn't this cause a cycle? As for life, my thesis is essentially done. Drop me an email - I'll be able to explain more there. “If someone’s a dickhead to me, I’m just gonna be a bigger dickhead back.”

Doesn’t this cause a cycle?

As for life, my thesis is essentially done. Drop me an email – I’ll be able to explain more there.

]]> By: Gnorb http://www.gnorb.net/845/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says#comment-55072 Gnorb Tue, 01 May 2007 17:51:57 +0000 http://www.gnorb.net/life/20070430/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says/#comment-55072 @Chas: Uh... what? - - "He flies Southwest...Fly United" - Your point being? It's called being thrifty. Lots of people do it, including business people. Money can be better spent (and invested) in other things. Personally, I prefer AirTran, but that's just me. - - "seems to think winning over potential customers to be aggressive and negative" - Wait... customers? - -"Customer relationship is everything and unfortunately first impressions are a fact of life." - When did we start to talk about customers? Seriously, I'm lost here. - - "He should also go on a diet and exercise." - Thank you, Tony Robins. Your insight is supreme. Oh, and did you miss the part where I mentioned that HE WAS ALREADY DOING THAT? - Wow... dude... Did you take class on how to be <b>more</b> judgmental or something? You sit there, make assumptions based on a VERY limited set of facts -- facts picked for the sake of HUMOR -- spin it off, ignore stated information, then start insulting. Just a guess: you're a political strategist. Am I close? (A name like "Chas" is PERFECT for that!) In either case, I'm guessing you're fairly young: your ignorance is showing. - Better to stay quiet and seem foolish than to open it and remove all doubt. It's too late for that, but I suggest you read "How to win friends and influence people" in order to avoid any future problems. If you have already read the book then, for the love of God, do yourself a favor and re-read it. - As for his successes as a business person, I'll just let his 30+ years of experience building, running, and selling businesses, and the fact that he buys businesses without the help of outside financing do the talking. I won't ask if you can say the same, since it's none of my business, but I'm sure I can guess the answer. @Chas: Uh… what?
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- “He flies Southwest…Fly United” – Your point being? It’s called being thrifty. Lots of people do it, including business people. Money can be better spent (and invested) in other things. Personally, I prefer AirTran, but that’s just me.
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- “seems to think winning over potential customers to be aggressive and negative” – Wait… customers?
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-”Customer relationship is everything and unfortunately first impressions are a fact of life.” – When did we start to talk about customers? Seriously, I’m lost here.
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- “He should also go on a diet and exercise.” – Thank you, Tony Robins. Your insight is supreme. Oh, and did you miss the part where I mentioned that HE WAS ALREADY DOING THAT?
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Wow… dude… Did you take class on how to be more judgmental or something? You sit there, make assumptions based on a VERY limited set of facts — facts picked for the sake of HUMOR — spin it off, ignore stated information, then start insulting. Just a guess: you’re a political strategist. Am I close? (A name like “Chas” is PERFECT for that!) In either case, I’m guessing you’re fairly young: your ignorance is showing.
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Better to stay quiet and seem foolish than to open it and remove all doubt. It’s too late for that, but I suggest you read “How to win friends and influence people” in order to avoid any future problems. If you have already read the book then, for the love of God, do yourself a favor and re-read it.
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As for his successes as a business person, I’ll just let his 30+ years of experience building, running, and selling businesses, and the fact that he buys businesses without the help of outside financing do the talking. I won’t ask if you can say the same, since it’s none of my business, but I’m sure I can guess the answer.

]]> By: Chas http://www.gnorb.net/845/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says#comment-55062 Chas Tue, 01 May 2007 14:51:09 +0000 http://www.gnorb.net/life/20070430/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says/#comment-55062 Your dad doesn't sound like an astute business individual. He flies Southwest and seems to think winning over potential customers to be aggressive and negative. Spend the extra money and Fly United. They will actually reserve a seat for you and have a business seating section if needed. He should also go on a diet and exercise. Customer relationship is everything and unfortunately first impressions are a fact of life. Not sure how someone who doesn't seem to take of themself can run or manage a business. Your dad doesn’t sound like an astute business individual.
He flies Southwest and seems to think winning over potential customers to be aggressive and negative. Spend the extra money and Fly United. They will actually reserve a seat for you and have a business seating section if needed. He should also go on a diet and exercise. Customer relationship is everything and unfortunately first impressions are a fact of life. Not sure how someone who doesn’t seem to take of themself can run or manage a business.

]]> By: Gnorb http://www.gnorb.net/845/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says#comment-55053 Gnorb Tue, 01 May 2007 12:58:38 +0000 http://www.gnorb.net/life/20070430/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says/#comment-55053 @Pelf: Define "embarrass ourselves"? The threshold for embarrassment seems to be higher or lower depending on how averse to criticism you are. As I said, my father has pretty thick skin. I don't think he was embarrassed in the least. Most 58 year olds wouldn't be, I don't think. - @QS: I can tell you he definitely wasn't trying to make anybody's life miserable, but he knew what everyone was thinking. (Of course, we always judge ourselves by our intentions while others judge us by our actions.) Let's face it, everybody's thought it: please don't sit me next to the really fat guy. People who are naturally tiny I don't think would mind that much, but you get an average sized guy and I can see where discomfort comes into the equation. The guy at the seat could have played along with the situation and made the best of it (asking to be moved was fine -- this I totally understand -- but being an ass wasn't) but instead he chose to have a bad attitude. This goes back to my dad's philosophy on that type of matter: “If someone’s a dickhead to me, I’m just gonna be a bigger dickhead back.” - By the way, QS, long time, so see. How's life? @Pelf: Define “embarrass ourselves”? The threshold for embarrassment seems to be higher or lower depending on how averse to criticism you are. As I said, my father has pretty thick skin. I don’t think he was embarrassed in the least. Most 58 year olds wouldn’t be, I don’t think.
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@QS: I can tell you he definitely wasn’t trying to make anybody’s life miserable, but he knew what everyone was thinking. (Of course, we always judge ourselves by our intentions while others judge us by our actions.) Let’s face it, everybody’s thought it: please don’t sit me next to the really fat guy. People who are naturally tiny I don’t think would mind that much, but you get an average sized guy and I can see where discomfort comes into the equation. The guy at the seat could have played along with the situation and made the best of it (asking to be moved was fine — this I totally understand — but being an ass wasn’t) but instead he chose to have a bad attitude. This goes back to my dad’s philosophy on that type of matter: “If someone’s a dickhead to me, I’m just gonna be a bigger dickhead back.”
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By the way, QS, long time, so see. How’s life?

]]> By: Quantum Skyline http://www.gnorb.net/845/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says#comment-54928 Quantum Skyline Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:46:02 +0000 http://www.gnorb.net/life/20070430/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says/#comment-54928 I've been on the receiving end of your father's actions on the plane a few times. In general, I think there's two kinds of reactions: you think he's extremely mean and actually wants to make life miserable for someone, or you don't mind and life goes on. I try to fall in the second category. To be honest, I'm more concerned about my leg not cramping on a plane because the guy in front of me reclined his seat so far that the seat is resting on my knee than I am about the state of the guy next to me. I suppose the plane your father was on had more of the first. I’ve been on the receiving end of your father’s actions on the plane a few times. In general, I think there’s two kinds of reactions: you think he’s extremely mean and actually wants to make life miserable for someone, or you don’t mind and life goes on.

I try to fall in the second category. To be honest, I’m more concerned about my leg not cramping on a plane because the guy in front of me reclined his seat so far that the seat is resting on my knee than I am about the state of the guy next to me. I suppose the plane your father was on had more of the first.

]]> By: pelf http://www.gnorb.net/845/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says#comment-54916 pelf Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:36:25 +0000 http://www.gnorb.net/life/20070430/so-a-man-walks-into-a-full-airplane-and-says/#comment-54916 I actually like the way your father does things. I mean, he reminds me of my Supervisor, who INSISTED that she be given the discount on her coffee as stated in the promotional material. But after all the hoo-haa, the manager of the outlet came out and told her that she would have to present a member card in order to be entitled for a discount, which she couldn't because she wasn't a member! So, I digressed. But yea, I think it is good that we stand firm on whatever we believe we're entitled to, but at the same time we must also be a little flexible so as to not embarrass ourselves! :) I actually like the way your father does things. I mean, he reminds me of my Supervisor, who INSISTED that she be given the discount on her coffee as stated in the promotional material. But after all the hoo-haa, the manager of the outlet came out and told her that she would have to present a member card in order to be entitled for a discount, which she couldn’t because she wasn’t a member!

So, I digressed.

But yea, I think it is good that we stand firm on whatever we believe we’re entitled to, but at the same time we must also be a little flexible so as to not embarrass ourselves! :)

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